tom wagner
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Schöckl^10

thomas.wagner • Mar 31, 2017

this was originally posted on the 1st of March 2015!

Climb.

Descent.

Repeat.

haben Georg ( innovit ) und ich vor Jahren (2011 war es glaub ich) die Idee geboren, es wäre doch mal schön unseren Grazer Hausberg ( Schöckl , 1445m ü.A.) nicht nur einmal rauf und runter zu laufen, sondern wie wär das mit 10mal!? Von der Talstation der Schöckl-Seilbahn rauf zur Bergstation. In etwa ein Marathon, nur halt mit dem einen oder anderen Höhenmeter (~6700 positive und 6700 negative). Der einzige Gegner: der Hausberg. Einmal bin ich einfach so 5mal rauf und runter; aber dann hat es mir gereicht. Mit etwas Planung und etwas Unterstützung könnte das aber schon machbar sein. Irgendwann braucht man ja dann doch was zu Essen oder mal was Warmes (Suppe, Tee)… …und wenn (speziell gegen Ende) man von Freunden begleitet wird, kann das auch nur hilfreich sein. Na dann im Hinterkopf behalten und wenn es passt, realisieren.

Naja, irgendwie nimmt bei mir dann die Liste der Rennen die Überhand und es hat irgendwie nie ganz gepasst, um auch diese private Challenge unter zu bringen. Die eine oder andere Teilnahme am Schöckl Classic (Duathlon; von Graz mit dem Rennrad rauf zur Talstation, Wechsel in die Laufschuhe und rauf zur Bergstation) hat riesen Spaß gemacht und oft wenn ich die Strecke ein, zwei, maximal dreimal im Training angegangen bin, hat es mich schon gereizt rauszufinden ob die 10mal drin sind. Aber einfach so geht das auch nicht…

Und gestern dann (oder besser gesagt Jahre später), nachdem ich die Woche aufgrund einer Erkältung recht „Trainingsfaul“ war, wollte ich einfach mal wieder rauf auf den Hausberg, schauen wie es mir geht. Und zumindest mal die Luft da oben genießen. Wenn alles passt, vielleicht geht sich ja das ganze 3mal aus? Also etwas Laufzeugs, Trinken und einige Riegel sowie andere Energielieferanten ( Waffeln, Apfelmuss,… ) rein ins Auto und rauf zum Parkplatz.

Nummer 1, einfach „treiben“ lassen und versuchen einen Rhythmus zu finden. Heuer noch nicht so viel mit meinen Stöcken gelaufen, aber es fühlt sich gut an. 37min. und ich bin oben. Naja, da war ich schon 10min schneller oben, aber definitiv krank bin ich nicht mehr. Schön ist es da heroben. Ich glaub ich will das gleich nochmals machen. Aber erst einmal die etwas eisigen Passagen im Downhill überstehen… und unten den Schneematsch und den Gatsch…

# 2 geht gut und die Sonne kommt raus, fein. #3: es wird wärmer und die eisigen Stellen sind einfacher; dafür weicht der restliche Boden auf und es wird nicht weniger rutschig. Unten beim Auto etwas trinken fassen und Riegelnachschub. Also einmal geht schon noch, vielleicht sogar noch einmal? Nachdem ich keine weiteren Termine habe, starte ich zu #4; Visor ist ausreichend und Handschuhe grad nicht nötig. Beine und Arme schieben brav nach oben. Aja, nur um dies klar zu stellen: bergauf bin ich zu 99.9% am powerhiking. Bei dieser Steigung ist dies viel effektiver. Für mich zumindest. Und dann hab ich auch schon #5 in der Tasche. 5:22hrs. Es geht mir gut; will ich weitermachen. Wieso nicht. Aber nun doch die Suche im Auto was ich denn alles so mit habe. Die Laufbox bringt noch einige Schätze zum Vorschein und außerdem kann ich ja oben im Alpengasthof was essen. Das ist der Vorteil beim Hausberg. Na dann #6. Oben dann schon der Blick zum Gasthaus. Hunger hätt ich schon. Aber nicht wirklich was zum umziehen. Na dann Wechselzeugs holen. Und beim Bergankunft #7 gönn ich mir die Pause im Gasthaus ( AGH ). Kräuterrösti mit Spiegelei auf Salat und dazu Schwarztee mit Milch und Johannisbeersaft auf 0.5. Fein. Der Vorteil, dass ich einfach so da heroben bin, und einfach nur der Berg und ich uns was ausmachen. Stress mach ich mir keinen. Zahlen und wieder raus; es kühlt schon wieder etwas ab. Unten beim Auto aber denk ich noch immer nicht ans aufhören und so starte ich wieder nach oben. Nicht aber ohne Stirnlampe die vielleicht irgendwann notwendig wird. Na da hat irgendwas in meinem Hinterkopf beim Laufbox befüllen netterweise doch mitgedacht. Für den downhill dann aber schon die Beleuchtung eingeschalten. Es wird wieder eisiger. Und meine Oberschenkel melden sich auch schon etwas. Hehe, ist nun erlaubt denk ich mir nur. Wieder beim Auto kommt nun endgültig die Motivation auf die 10mal nun zu machen. 2mal geht jetzt auch noch, oder. Einen Fuß vor (oder oft über) den anderen… Bei Bergankunft #9 ist die Sicht gegen Null und der kalte Nebel macht es etwas unfreundlich. On the pleasant side of uncomfortable! Runter wird’s aufgrund der geringen Sicht schon anstrengend. Nur gut, dass ich mittlerweile fast jeden Stein beim Namen kenne. Nochmals Kopfbedeckung wechseln. Die Haube war fürs Heimfahren danach gedacht, aber erfüllt seinen Zweck bestens. Die Regenjacke ist nun auch schon mehr als Windschutz, denn unten leichter Regen und oben etwas Graupel verlangen danach.

#10 geht jetzt auch noch. Wieso nicht. Denn es geht mir erstaunlich gut. Na dann rauf. …und oben. Yeah! Bergankunft #10. Fühlt sich gut an. Noch schnell ein Beweisfoto und die Fäustlinge wieder drüber. Denn Ende ist erst wenn man wieder unten ist und das Wetter ladet gerade nicht zum Verweilen ein. …Auto, du hast mich wieder. Also eigentlich unspektakulär. Aber irgendwie eine tolle Ruhe da am Parkplatz. Bin nicht zerstört. Wohl aber geschafft, aber hab es auch geschafft. Dafür, dass ich für das Schöckl^10 einfach mal wieder trainieren wollte um es vielleicht irgendwann mal in die Tat umzusetzen, hab ich es nun also gleich erledigt. So geht’s doch auch 😉

Hausberg, danke. Es war mir eine Ehre 😉

By thomas.wagner 04 Jan, 2023
everyone is familiar with those indexes / indices, right!? and so what!? top 1%? ok, sounds cool. nothing more. grateful that I live a life where running is a fun side hassle that allows me and my fam to explore some awesome places. speaking of awesome places: sooo excited to toe the line at Western States Endurance Run 100 Miles this June. so better focus on the training and once again apologize for not being very active on this / my site. but I will keep trying... best and happy trails, tom
By thomas.wagner 07 Apr, 2022
... 20 to keep you in the race...
By thomas.wagner 19 Jan, 2021
pretty cool to see your own self on a cover of a trailrunning mag, right!? honored to make the cover of the current issue 01/2021 of the Trailrunning Szene ;-) ...potentially not only the cover is a good one but also the content; go check it out!
By tom 01 Jan, 2021
...there is actually a load of cool gear out there and I'm fortunate enough to be able to play with much of it; but actually my gear of the year 2020 is a pretty simple, but pretty important one. No; its not a shoe, but likely an even more important piece of gear for a (trail)runner: a handheld! Some sort of a bottle with some sort of a strap to attach it to your hands.
By thomas.wagner 11 Dec, 2020
I’m actually pretty bad in bragging about myself. Anyway, I was nominated for the Austrian Trail Awards due to my 2020 performance; especially because of winning the Chiemgau 100 Miles . Nothing too special IMHO (a german version of a race report from the local press can be found here ). By actually thinking about it a bit more in detail, this individual win in this strange period of COVIDian times simply could imply a bit of luck that day on my side and not many other runners chasing that win… …maybe. But there is actually a bigger picture to look at. Not only 2020 in itself and not a single performance for sure. So, as I am anyway super late in writing a “race report” about the Chiemgau 100 (s)Miles, I thought I might as well use this “opportunity” of being nominated for the Austrian Trail Awards ( find out all about the nominated girls and boys here ) and dig a little deeper why this performance is at least in my opinion not only luck but maybe also some hard work over years; actually decades... Running 100 miles during COVIDian times can actually be seen as sort of the most appropriate way to practice “distancing”. Starting blocks during the Chiemgau 100 aren’t introduced in 2020, but are a way of allowing us runners to choose the right time window for the first “loop” to be ready for the second part that aligns with the 100 km course. Every full hour between 2 (this year 1) PM and 8PM, a small group of runners departs… At 7PM, it was only 3 of us. And no, we did not take it slow and easy really; although Flo (the winner of the 2019 edition) and I at least tried to convince the other one of that. So the night was sort of “hot” already and the next morning did not bring us any cooler temps really. In the end it turned out to be a pretty hot day and thanks to my crew chief a lot of ice in my hand bottles, in my neck bandana and under my hat made me keep moving forward. Long story short, after 22:09:32 h I made it back to the start line in 1st place. Super happy about it! So grateful about another 100 miles victory; about another awesome long day out on the trails. That was now number 7 in total and besides a win (my 100 miles PB in 19:49:43 h) and then course record at the 100 miles of Istria in 2016; it was my 6 th win here at the Chiemgau 100 Miles. And this is where likely luck does not explain the whole story anymore. My first win was back in 2011 (a decade ago!). Again in 2012 (tied with Lars Donarth), 2015 , 2017 , 2018 (still the course record in 21:19:44 h) and this year, 2020. In 2014 , I managed to hold on for a second place behind Rudi Döhnert. And yes, I also DNFed at this race once; after ~100k in 2013 . Figure 1 shows my times over the course of a decade (!) running/finishing the Chiemgau 100 Miles. And although this is not how trend analysis should be done properly, it is at least reasonable to argue that I did not get much slower over the course of a decade. That’s sort of cool and please allow me to be a little proud about that “trend” ;o) ...I will do my very best to keep that trend alive in the years to come. Long may you run !
By thomas.wagner 22 Sep, 2020
super excited to join this group of atheltes and learn from the past! for more details see https://alpfronttrail.com/
By thomas.wagner 10 Aug, 2020
Matthias Krah and I, after finishing / winning the 100 km and 100 miles, respectively. Super happy with the long day out (22:09 hrs) and likely will take a day or two to process it all. ...a little "report" will follow asap! in the meanwhile, happy trails to all of you! photo credit and big thanks to @summitsforthesoul (Florian Schütz)
By thomas.wagner 23 Jul, 2020
...this will be awesome! virtually AWESOME ! HERE is a link to the detailed programm! ....don't know how I made it into that list of all this badass athletes around me ;-) Go an check out the line up and register early! will be great fun to listen for sure and I'm sure that the one or the other thing can be learned from any of us! keep running single tracks and keep showing up! happy trails in the meantime and stay healthy!
By tom 20 Jul, 2020
...there might not be much going on concerning races and the like; so enjoy being outdoors, train for the sake of training and breath cool air up high or sweat a lot down low. ...maybe try an FKT (fastest known time) or simply explore the playground near you. Eventually we will be toeing the start line soon! fingers crossed that this will be rather sooner than later. In the meanwhile, run to add life to your days! happy trails!
By thomas.wagner 29 Mar, 2020
A few thoughts (and maybe recommendations) about a number that seems to show up in three of my “passions”: 80 / 20 A ratio that might be relevant for three of my passions: coffee, hydrogeology and running long... 1) Coffee : 80 % bio arabica / 20 % bio robusta Right now, we do have some additional time to think about things in our live, we didn’t before. Not saying that I’m working any less hours. However, the home office actually demands a different work flow and required this week a sort of emergency order for coffee to keep me working. This is actually when the 80/20 ratio sort of appeared in all these three “disciplines”. I ordered four different coffees (250g each, whole beans) at a local roastery called “Paul&Bohne”: one was a 100 % arabica, one a 50/50 arabica/robusta, one 90% arabica, 10 % robusta and the final one, the “Lendblend” was a 80/20. And I must admit, I like the 80/20! A personal preference - nothing more, nothing less. 2) Hydrogeology : 80 % older, longer stored water / 20 % event water Currently, I’m working on a project about a soil substrate map of Styria (Austria) we try to complete somehow despite all the necessary measures necessary during COVID-19. But usually, my research focus is more on spring catchment characterization and there is a manuscript currently under review (“Active rock glaciers as shallow groundwater reservoirs, Austrian Alps”) that I check its status on a regular basis. Long story short: springs may react on recharge events differently. Some show basically very little fast response on event water and the spring hydrograph is rather dampened. Other springs, like many karst or rock glacier springs do show a much higher variability in spring discharge usually related to preferential flow paths. Interestingly, the percentage of event water (fast flowing through the aquifer after storm or snow melt events) in at least some of these catchments is ~20%, meaning that older, longer stored water (with usually higher mineralization) is ~80% of the runoff. This is definitely not a number that holds true for all spring catchments, but at least some I had the chance to study (Wagner et al. 2016, Winkler et al., 2016). 80/20, but others are more like 60/40, but basically never 100 % event water. However, during drought periods (or actually periods of no to very little recharge) spring flow or actually river runoff might be 100 % groundwater contribution… We might come back to this when there is time to think again about our climate crisis and not the COVID-19 anymore. Ideally, the latter might show that we can live with a little less (add here travel, meat, etc.) than we used to… 3) (Ultra-) Running : 80 % slow runs / 20 % high(er) intensity Just reading the German version of “Training for the Uphill Athlete – A manual for mountain runners and ski mountaineers” by Steve House, Kílian Jornet and Scott Johnston that I bought for Silke because she didn’t like to read the English version, there is an obvious focus on establishing an endurance base, meaning we all should have a good base built before even do the faster, high intensity stuff. If we did a good job in building this base, we need to keep the balance between the “slow” runs and the “intense” ones. And yes, this ratio is 80/20. When you think about what “polarized training” suggests (there is reasonably strong evidence that it is very beneficial for endurance athletes (Seiler, 2010) and potentially for recreational runners too (Munoz et al., 2014) to train that way), you should spend a lot of time (80 %) below your aerobic threshold (AeT), and only a 1/3 of the remaining time between AeT and lactate threshold (LT) and the other 2/3 remaining above LT. I must admit, I like the 80% but often have a hard time to push really hard during these 13% (or actually two high intensity sessions a week). So hopefully race season is coming soon again to get that percentage up again. So what should this 80/20 ratio tell you ? …definitely no “conclusion” here from my side, just simply an observation of me (coffee), myself (hydrogeology) and I (running long) that the ratio 80/20 might be a “good” one… ...maybe right now, all these "passions" do not really matter that much and we should all use 80% on " family time " and reduce intensity (unnecessary stress) in our lives in general to (below) 20%!? Fingers crossed we all will be out on the trails soon again, enjoying our coffee at a campsite, and not having work and hobby getting too close to each other as it is right now, where home & office is the same and it is hard to disconnect from work. Stay healthy and stay positive. And if this post did not make any sense to you, at least it might have distracted you a little from the current situation… Happy home and hopefully happy trails soon! Cheers, tom References: House, S., Jornet, K. and Johnston, S., 2019. Training for the Uphill Athlete – A manual for mountain runners and ski mountaineers. Patagonia Books, Ventura, United States. ISBN: 978-1-938340-84-0 Seiler, S., 2010. What is the best practice for training intensity and duration distribution in endurance athletes? International Journal of Sports Physiology and Performance 5(3): 276-291. https://doi.org/10.1123/ijspp.5.3.276 Munoz,, I., Seiler, S., Bautista, J., Espana, J.m Larumbe, E., Esteve-Lanao, J., 2014. Does polarized training improve performance in recreational runners? International Journal of Sports Physiology and Performance 9(2): 265-272. https://doi.org/10.1123/IJSPP.2012-0350 Paul & Bohne: https://paulundbohne.at/ accessed 25.03.2020. Wagner, T., Pauritsch, M., Winkler, G., 2016. Impact of relict rock glaciers on spring and stream flow of alpine watersheds: Examples of the Niedere Tauern Range, Eastern Alps (Austria). Austrian Journal of Earth Sciences 109(1), 84-98. https://doi.org/10.17738/ajes.2016.0006 Winkler, G., Wagner, T. Pauritsch, M., Birk, S., Kellerer-Pirklbauer, A., Benischke, R., Leis, A., Morawetz, R., Schreilechner, M.G., Hergarten, S., 2016. Identification and assessment of groundwater flow and storage components of the relict Schöneben Rock Glacier, Niedere Tauern Range, Eastern Alps (Austria). Hydrogeology Journal 24, 937-953. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10040-015-1348-9
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